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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mohammad

you need to infect a donor plant then plant it next to the plant you wish to infect or you can buy expensive injection systems which shoot a gel into the root zone</description>
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<p>you need to infect a donor plant then plant it next to the plant you wish to infect or you can buy expensive injection systems which shoot a gel into the root zone</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did understand the beneficial aspect of mycorrhyzae in rootzone, and I looking forward to apply for my next cropping cycles using coco coir as planting media. The problem is it is not easy to get the innoculant at my place. Is there any method that we can innoculate this fungus using existing plant&#039;s roots colonised by M web and what are the plants that can be used.
thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did understand the beneficial aspect of mycorrhyzae in rootzone, and I looking forward to apply for my next cropping cycles using coco coir as planting media. The problem is it is not easy to get the innoculant at my place. Is there any method that we can innoculate this fungus using existing plant&#8217;s roots colonised by M web and what are the plants that can be used.<br />
thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to use h2o2 when I spotted brown roots and it worked for a while each time and the brown roots would always come back. I then started using aquashied. It is beneficial bacteria and I&#039;m simply amazed, large white roots and huge plants. Next I&#039;ll try the GH b and and I&#039;m thinking about the M which is mycorrhizae. Do you suggest using both bacteria and fungus at the same time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to use h2o2 when I spotted brown roots and it worked for a while each time and the brown roots would always come back. I then started using aquashied. It is beneficial bacteria and I&#8217;m simply amazed, large white roots and huge plants. Next I&#8217;ll try the GH b and and I&#8217;m thinking about the M which is mycorrhizae. Do you suggest using both bacteria and fungus at the same time?</p>
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		<title>By: eliab lozada</title>
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		<dc:creator>eliab lozada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I do. The oxydizing effect of h2o2 does not differentiate on whether the cell is aerobic or not. It may not be as strong as ethanol, but it will kill indiscriminately.

If you pour a dilute peroxide solution over a wound, you will notice the fizz. That fizz comes from the oxydation of, not only any potential pathogens, but from the oxydation of cells belonging to lacerated blood, tissue, and nerves. H2o2&#039;s oxydizing action is not selective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I do. The oxydizing effect of h2o2 does not differentiate on whether the cell is aerobic or not. It may not be as strong as ethanol, but it will kill indiscriminately.</p>
<p>If you pour a dilute peroxide solution over a wound, you will notice the fizz. That fizz comes from the oxydation of, not only any potential pathogens, but from the oxydation of cells belonging to lacerated blood, tissue, and nerves. H2o2&#8217;s oxydizing action is not selective.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 05:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eliab,

Do you know for a fact that H2O2 kills the beneficials? I have heard that it will only kill anaerobic bugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eliab,</p>
<p>Do you know for a fact that H2O2 kills the beneficials? I have heard that it will only kill anaerobic bugs.</p>
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		<title>By: eliab lozada</title>
		<link>http://urbangardenmagazine.com/2010/01/super-feeding-do-mycorrhizae-have-a-role-in-hydroponics/comment-page-1/#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator>eliab lozada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 02:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addendum: several typos noted. Despite this, I stand by what was written and cite as a reference the book Teaming with Microbes.

Another thing worth mentioning: bacteria may be more beneficial than mycorrhyzae, depending on what you grow. Some annuals, for example, may benefit more from a seasonal fling with bacteria, whereas certain trees and perennials profit from a long-term relationship with fungi. This is not a hard and fast rule and I highly recommend reading the aforementioned book for a more in-depth look at which microorganism would better benefit what type of plant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum: several typos noted. Despite this, I stand by what was written and cite as a reference the book Teaming with Microbes.</p>
<p>Another thing worth mentioning: bacteria may be more beneficial than mycorrhyzae, depending on what you grow. Some annuals, for example, may benefit more from a seasonal fling with bacteria, whereas certain trees and perennials profit from a long-term relationship with fungi. This is not a hard and fast rule and I highly recommend reading the aforementioned book for a more in-depth look at which microorganism would better benefit what type of plant.</p>
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		<title>By: eliab lozada</title>
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		<dc:creator>eliab lozada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 01:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Innoculants usually come with a charge of carbohydrates, just enough to get them started into reproducing. Once they attach themselves to the root system, they will feed off the root zone exudates and dead root matter (yes, root death occurs constantly - a healthy root system reproduces faster than the rate at which it decays). So, you do not need to add any organic additives that may end up clogging drippers and misters. If you&#039;re using ebb/flow, you can add humic acids or seaweed extract: mycos love that stuff! Just PLEASE don&#039;t add any H2O2 when inoculating--the bennies will keep the population of nasties to marginal levels by out-competing them out of food. Some will even go to work on the bad ones or trigger immune responses at root level, where the plant will produce its own antibiotics. Beneficial microbes definitely have a place in hydro. I do not want to give away too much, but look out for our upcoming product tests, where we will be sharing our experiences testing a new microbial innoculant under a variety of growing media, settings, and conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Innoculants usually come with a charge of carbohydrates, just enough to get them started into reproducing. Once they attach themselves to the root system, they will feed off the root zone exudates and dead root matter (yes, root death occurs constantly &#8211; a healthy root system reproduces faster than the rate at which it decays). So, you do not need to add any organic additives that may end up clogging drippers and misters. If you&#8217;re using ebb/flow, you can add humic acids or seaweed extract: mycos love that stuff! Just PLEASE don&#8217;t add any H2O2 when inoculating&#8211;the bennies will keep the population of nasties to marginal levels by out-competing them out of food. Some will even go to work on the bad ones or trigger immune responses at root level, where the plant will produce its own antibiotics. Beneficial microbes definitely have a place in hydro. I do not want to give away too much, but look out for our upcoming product tests, where we will be sharing our experiences testing a new microbial innoculant under a variety of growing media, settings, and conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a couple of comments / questions.

First, I use non-organic nutrients in a hydroponic operation. I employ light doses of 3% H2O2 to keep the roots healthy and the waterways clean. Would it be possible to continue this practice without killing the mycorrhizal fungi, or would it be better not to inoculate with the fungi in this application?

Secondly, aside from improved root disease resistance, are there other benefits to the hydroponically grown plant? In my view, water and consumable nutrients are abundantly available to the roots in most hydroponic applications, so the &quot;expanded root system&quot; benefit of the mycorrhizal fungi may not be useful to the hydroponically grown plant. Since there are no organic materials in solution or in the medium (at least in my operation) the plant does not benefit from the ability of the fungi to break down the nutrient compounds so they are in a form that the plant can easily consume. The hydroponic nutrients are already in a form easily available to the plants. Are there other benefits to the non-organic hydroponic garden?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of comments / questions.</p>
<p>First, I use non-organic nutrients in a hydroponic operation. I employ light doses of 3% H2O2 to keep the roots healthy and the waterways clean. Would it be possible to continue this practice without killing the mycorrhizal fungi, or would it be better not to inoculate with the fungi in this application?</p>
<p>Secondly, aside from improved root disease resistance, are there other benefits to the hydroponically grown plant? In my view, water and consumable nutrients are abundantly available to the roots in most hydroponic applications, so the &#8220;expanded root system&#8221; benefit of the mycorrhizal fungi may not be useful to the hydroponically grown plant. Since there are no organic materials in solution or in the medium (at least in my operation) the plant does not benefit from the ability of the fungi to break down the nutrient compounds so they are in a form that the plant can easily consume. The hydroponic nutrients are already in a form easily available to the plants. Are there other benefits to the non-organic hydroponic garden?</p>
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		<title>By: Everest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Everest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear NA,

As is often the case in the field of horticulture and, for that matter, the wider universe, the truth is invariably a good deal more complex than we sometimes conceive it to be. There are over 20,000 studies of mycorrhizae and phosphorus uptake. Furthermore there are many different strains of mycorrhizae with different attributes. Some mycorrhizal species and strains are sensitive to high levels of available P, which can inhibit propagule germination, whereas other species and strains thrive in a moderate P environment. A quality mycorrhizae product is created by using strains that thrive in a moderate P environment.

Trichodema harazianum and T. konigii improved root growth and mycorrhizal colonization in several replicated trials. Is there a Trichoderma species that would compete with mycorrhizal fungi in a certain situation/environment? We asked Dr. Michael Amaranthus from Myco Apply. He reported that in his 35 year career he has never experienced this kind of thing. Nevertheless, we concede that it is possible. Again, it’s a question of species. I believe also that JH Biotech in Ventura would tell you that nutrient cycling with the tricos does, in fact, take place.

To better evaluate your comments, it would have been helpful for you to post citations of any scientific research or publications that back up your assertions or, at least, a valid email address to enable a private correspondence. I have posted some references to some studies that you may find informative: http://urbangardenmagazine.com/tag/research

Nb. If you had provided a valid email address we would have taken the opportunity to make a private request to you, asking you politely to refrain from posting insults (especially directed at our editorial and research team) on our public website. While the relative anonymity of communication via Internet forums can doubtlessly promote incisive debates and exchanges, we must also try not to let ourselves get carried away when it comes to asserting our opinions as objective facts, lest we embarrass ourselves very publicly!

To this end, we edited some of your comments. I hope you don’t mind.

Peace,
Everest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear NA,</p>
<p>As is often the case in the field of horticulture and, for that matter, the wider universe, the truth is invariably a good deal more complex than we sometimes conceive it to be. There are over 20,000 studies of mycorrhizae and phosphorus uptake. Furthermore there are many different strains of mycorrhizae with different attributes. Some mycorrhizal species and strains are sensitive to high levels of available P, which can inhibit propagule germination, whereas other species and strains thrive in a moderate P environment. A quality mycorrhizae product is created by using strains that thrive in a moderate P environment.</p>
<p>Trichodema harazianum and T. konigii improved root growth and mycorrhizal colonization in several replicated trials. Is there a Trichoderma species that would compete with mycorrhizal fungi in a certain situation/environment? We asked Dr. Michael Amaranthus from Myco Apply. He reported that in his 35 year career he has never experienced this kind of thing. Nevertheless, we concede that it is possible. Again, it’s a question of species. I believe also that JH Biotech in Ventura would tell you that nutrient cycling with the tricos does, in fact, take place.</p>
<p>To better evaluate your comments, it would have been helpful for you to post citations of any scientific research or publications that back up your assertions or, at least, a valid email address to enable a private correspondence. I have posted some references to some studies that you may find informative: <a href="http://urbangardenmagazine.com/tag/research" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://urbangardenmagazine.com/tag/research</a></p>
<p>Nb. If you had provided a valid email address we would have taken the opportunity to make a private request to you, asking you politely to refrain from posting insults (especially directed at our editorial and research team) on our public website. While the relative anonymity of communication via Internet forums can doubtlessly promote incisive debates and exchanges, we must also try not to let ourselves get carried away when it comes to asserting our opinions as objective facts, lest we embarrass ourselves very publicly!</p>
<p>To this end, we edited some of your comments. I hope you don’t mind.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Everest</p>
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		<title>By: na</title>
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		<dc:creator>na</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AM fungi will no sporulate or infect host roots if phosphorus levels are over 32 ppm, and over about 20 ppm hinders the AM fungi to a great degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AM fungi will no sporulate or infect host roots if phosphorus levels are over 32 ppm, and over about 20 ppm hinders the AM fungi to a great degree.</p>
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